What does your heart tell you?

I always get weepy when Treebeard gives his little speech - "There is no curse in Elvish, Entish or the tongues of Men for this treachery. They have business with the Orcs. My business is with Isengard tonight with a rock and stone.Come, my friends. The Ents are going to war. It is likely that we go to our doom. Last march of the Ents". That is probably one of my favourite parts of The Two Towers, it doesn't make me weepy it just gives me goosebumps, especially with the way the music swells up as the Ents begin to walk towards Isengard. I actually find the end of Helms Deep to be far more emotional than any of the actual battle, from the point where Aragorn tells Theoden that they should ride out together and Gimli goes to sound the horn it really kicks in for me emotionally. Same here. It's a really strong moment, I just love it. I have to say I thought the Ent that puts his head into the water to put himself out was a joke from the animators! If I remember rightly, I think that was added in after Jackson voiced concerns about showing the Ents being killed. I don't know for sure as I can't remember it exactly but I do know it is pointed out in the commentary track of The Two Towers. Yep, you're right. After they decided to set the Ent on fire (they gave him a name as well, I think it was Moses, I can't honestly remember) they thought it might upset children, so they chose to make amends by having him run towards the floodwater :D I also remember them saying that the attack on Isengard was created very late in the day, they had about 3 months to make the whole scene. Doesn't look so bad for a rush job!

Possibly. The attack on Saruman's fortress was never really given fair coverage. It always felt tagged on to me. I kept waiting for this big climactic battle to take place and it was over in about ten minutes. Instead we had to watch the relatively minor battle at Helms Deep given the grandeous treatment. It was awesome though DF...come on... Oh yeah. I can't deny taken out of context the battle at Helms Deep does look amazing. But in terms of the story, I don't understand why so much time was wasted on it. It completely buggered up the end of the film for me.

Oh yeah. I can't deny taken out of context the battle at Helms Deep does look amazing. But in terms of the story, I don't understand why so much time was wasted on it. It completely buggered up the end of the film for me. I think its because The Two Towers needed a climax, in order to help it work as a film in the middle of a trilogy. Helm's Deep is the natural choice for that climax, and it is by far the best realised battle of the trilogy. I don't really remember the Battle of Isenguard being given too bad a treatment, although I'm also not sure which bits weren't in the theatrical cut. Certainly I think the march of the Ents is an emtionally powerful moment, coupled with the ending to Helms Deep and the arrival of the Rohirrim. Whilst Fellowship is my favourite film, I can't understand anyone saying the second two are lacking in emotion. I can name several occasions that bring tears to my eyes in Two Towers; Theoden burying his son and the afore-mentioned march of the Ents for starters. Return of the King is just a sob-fest for me, but bearing in mind that most people aren't as hopelessly emotionally involved as me, I still think there are a few moments that are beautifully poignant. Pippin's song as Faramir rides to Osgiliath is the stand-out choice, and I personally always lose what remaining self-control I have and sob when Pippin finds Merry on the battlefield... "Are you going to leave me?" "No, I'm going to look after you" :waa: On top of that you have this exchange... Sam: Do you remember the Shire, Mr. Frodo? It'll be spring soon, and the orchards will be in blossom. And the birds will be nesting in the hazel thicket. And they'll be sowing the summer barley in the lower fields. Eating the first of the strawberries with cream. Do you remember the taste of strawberries? Frodo: No, Sam. I can't recall the taste of food, nor the sound of water, nor the touch of grass. Instead I'm... naked in the dark. There's nothing. No veil between me and the wheel of fire! I can see him... with my waking eyes! Sam: Then let us be rid of it! Once and for all! Come on, Mr. Frodo. I can't carry it for you... but I can carry you! Come on! And then there's Theoden's speech before the Battle of Pelennor fields and Aragorn's speech before the Battle at the Black Gate, culminating in "for Frodo". If anything the one thing that really really annoys me about Return of the King (and actually the only thing that really annoys me in the whole trilogy) is that they tried to force extra emotion by having Frodo send Sam home. There was nothing wrong with the way the Shelob scene played out in the book, it was still tense and frightening, and I think that the decision to send Sam home undermines what is meant to be the strongest constant thing in the story; the friendship and love between Sam and Frodo. I just don't see the justification for doing that.

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